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I try to remind people fairly straightforward things that we easily forget. Yes, there is a lot of evil in the world, but there is also a lot of good. In fact, we are made for goodness, which is fantastic. I must have been maybe five or six.

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The thing that I really wanted to become was to be an adult. What you said, what you said with who? Wonderful Desmond tutu is someone the whole world respects. So the concept for the portrait was very simple. The world needs another tutu. You are the 1984

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winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. That's the kind of announcement that you think you hear in your dream. You see and you and Leah and I sat there and sort of looked at each other. What is it? It's about 26 26 years ago. Yes, it's about

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your age. They speak about a tutu legacy, which is, I suppose standing up for justice saying it is possible for enemies to become friends, reconciliation and peace. Speaking up for those who are downtrodden, who are the marginalized. And I'd like you to do whatever you feel

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comfortable with. If you wanna look horrified at the tutu. If you wanna laugh at the tutu, whatever you feel comfortable with because you are tutu. There's nothing to see there. The archbishop got up on stage. He almost broke my tutu. He danced around the tutu and

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then had all of us in fits of laughter when they had the World Cup for the homeless. Somebody took a picture of me kicking a ball. Nelson Mandela said they must tell me I must act my age if you could do exactly what you're doing now.

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But look at me why? But we got a fantastic shot of the archbishop. It really is like a magician pulling something out of a hat. The world needs another Tuta. And I think nothing says it better than that. My mother, she was an extraordinary human being.

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I mean, very gentle and very caring. And I've always said to people that I resemble her physically. She was short and, and she had a large nose, I'm like her. I pray that I can, I can be like her in her concern for others.