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What do you actually do when you forgive someone? Well, basically you are saying I am abandoning my right to revenge to pay back. I, I mean, I have, I by the fact that you have abused me, you have hurt me or whatever it is that you

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have done, you have wronged me by that you have given me a certain right as you go over you, that I could refuse to forgive you, I could say I have the right to retribution when I forgive, I say I jettison that right? And I open

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the door of opportunity to you to make a new beginning. That is what I do when I forgive you. But the Buddhist talk of letting go of the past, dying to the past when you forgive, of letting loose of the sorrow that you have brought with

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you from the past. Is that what you're talking about? The the thing is of course that I don't know that you yourself are able uh by uh an act of will as it were to let go of the pain, uh the will part of it where

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you will is deliberately to say I am not going to let you victimize me and hold me in a position where I have an anger against you. A resentment and I am looking for the opportunity to pay back. I am saying I want to let go

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of that, er, that right, er, and, and begin to work for the possibility of restoring the relationship. Do I have to do anything, the person being forgiven for your own sake? The only way you can appropriate forgiveness is by confessing. If that opens you, that opens

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you to the possibility of being able to receive it. It's like it's like it's like opening a window. You see forgiveness can be likened to the fresh air that is outside or the sunlight that is outside and, and, and you have a room and, and the,

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and the windows are closed and the curtains are drawn, the wind is still out there. My forgiveness is still available to you, but you won't find access until you open the window and the light streams in you draw the curtains apart and the, and the fresh

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air comes in you by your contrition and confession. You say I am sorry, forgive me open and my forgiveness enters your being. We're talking here about genocide, torture, our genocide and torture forgivable as a Christian. You, you have to say are there are things that are

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unforgivable? I'm afraid we follow a lord and master who at the point when they are crucifying him in the most painful way can say pray for their forgiveness. And we follow the one who says, forgive one another as God in Christ forgave you. That is for

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us, the paradigm, we may not always reach to that ideal, but that is the standard.